http://www.laitman.com/2009/03/the-creator-equals-nature/ Kabbalah and the Meaning of Life - Michael Laitman's Personal Blog Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:12:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://www.laitman.com/2009/03/the-creator-equals-nature/comment-page-1/#comment-2863 Pedro Santos from Brasília Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:49:26 +0000 http://www.laitman.com/?p=3154#comment-2863 The Creator is nature. Our bodies and our brains operate according to natural laws - the chemicals in our brains determine our thoughts. So much so that you can take substances - like tobacco, alcohol, xanax, anti-psychotic drugs, etc, to alter your mind state and thoughts. As I see it, kabbalah aims at making individuals and societies altruistic. Another way of altering a persons thoughts and state of mind is a group that influences the person. This I understand. But why do we need utterly incomprehensible kabbalistic texts such as TES? Wouldn't it be enough to create a society that promotes the principles of altruism, arvut, volunteer work and “from each according to his abilities and to each according to his needs”? In another post you said that if Russia had done things according to Marx, the revolution would've succeeded. So why do we need the ideas of a "metaphysical" and supernatural Creator, and of a sixth sense, if the Creator is nature? If he is nature, there is nothing supernatural, and if there is nothing supernatural, there is no need for a sixth sense. I love the ideals that you promote, but all the incomprehensible TES studies, plus the whole "machsom" concept, makes me think Bnei Baruch is just a cult that uses some "special hidden wisdom" to manipulate people into believing Rav Laitman is a God-Like human while we are all just humans. I was very engaged in dissemination and study, but those doubts appeared and this is why I don't study with the group anymore. I would like you to clarify my doubts and please, explain in simple words what does TES really talks about? What is the spiritual world, if it is nature? Is kabbalah a type of philosophy of language? Does TES talks about the relations between individuals? I cannot advance with bnei baruch unless you provide definitive, non supernatural, down to earth explanations on what does TES talks about - I don't believe in a supernatural ligth that reforms; but if you say that kabbalistic texts describe mental states (and by mind i mean the brain, because I don't believe in a 'supernatural soul') and thoughts, that kabbalah is a type of psychology, that partzufs and klis and screens are really psicological phenomenons - i might reconsider joining the group - only if a can understand what TES talks about. The Creator is nature. Our bodies and our brains operate according to natural laws – the chemicals in our brains determine our thoughts. So much so that you can take substances – like tobacco, alcohol, xanax, anti-psychotic drugs, etc, to alter your mind state and thoughts. As I see it, kabbalah aims at making individuals and societies altruistic. Another way of altering a persons thoughts and state of mind is a group that influences the person. This I understand. But why do we need utterly incomprehensible kabbalistic texts such as TES? Wouldn’t it be enough to create a society that promotes the principles of altruism, arvut, volunteer work and “from each according to his abilities and to each according to his needs”? In another post you said that if Russia had done things according to Marx, the revolution would’ve succeeded. So why do we need the ideas of a “metaphysical” and supernatural Creator, and of a sixth sense, if the Creator is nature? If he is nature, there is nothing supernatural, and if there is nothing supernatural, there is no need for a sixth sense. I love the ideals that you promote, but all the incomprehensible TES studies, plus the whole “machsom” concept, makes me think Bnei Baruch is just a cult that uses some “special hidden wisdom” to manipulate people into believing Rav Laitman is a God-Like human while we are all just humans. I was very engaged in dissemination and study, but those doubts appeared and this is why I don’t study with the group anymore. I would like you to clarify my doubts and please, explain in simple words what does TES really talks about? What is the spiritual world, if it is nature? Is kabbalah a type of philosophy of language? Does TES talks about the relations between individuals? I cannot advance with bnei baruch unless you provide definitive, non supernatural, down to earth explanations on what does TES talks about – I don’t believe in a supernatural ligth that reforms; but if you say that kabbalistic texts describe mental states (and by mind i mean the brain, because I don’t believe in a ‘supernatural soul’) and thoughts, that kabbalah is a type of psychology, that partzufs and klis and screens are really psicological phenomenons – i might reconsider joining the group – only if a can understand what TES talks about.

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